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		<title>Comment on Evolution Fact or Fiction? by Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with both of you. That&#039;s why atheists must research science and not just turn over catch phrases like a broken record.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Evolution Fact or Fiction? by soccerfreak67890</title>
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		<dc:creator>soccerfreak67890</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the gist of what anonymous is saying.  I&#039;ve heard too many christians be like &quot;well God was just always there&quot; and then they demand that an evolutionist give a source for the single molecule that started the whole big bang idea.  But I&#039;ve seen it a lot on the other side too.  An evolutionist will say &quot;Oh well it doesn&#039;t make sense that God was just always there, so he couldn&#039;t have been and something HAD to create him&quot;  but then they don&#039;t have a logical source for where matter came from.  You have to remember that there&#039;s just as many dense atheists as there are creationists...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the gist of what anonymous is saying.  I&#8217;ve heard too many christians be like &#8220;well God was just always there&#8221; and then they demand that an evolutionist give a source for the single molecule that started the whole big bang idea.  But I&#8217;ve seen it a lot on the other side too.  An evolutionist will say &#8220;Oh well it doesn&#8217;t make sense that God was just always there, so he couldn&#8217;t have been and something HAD to create him&#8221;  but then they don&#8217;t have a logical source for where matter came from.  You have to remember that there&#8217;s just as many dense atheists as there are creationists&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Made In Heaven by soccerfreak67890</title>
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		<dc:creator>soccerfreak67890</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, one of the main things that you&#039;re trying to promote is for christians to learn about their opposition before they argue against it and then Bob Banderball just comes in and does the exact same thing you accuse christians of doing, but no one cares about that because he&#039;s on your &quot;side.&quot;  According to christian theology, God planned everything even before the creation of the world.  So technically, the guy on the cross came before the laminin protein.  Just thought I&#039;d let you know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, one of the main things that you&#8217;re trying to promote is for christians to learn about their opposition before they argue against it and then Bob Banderball just comes in and does the exact same thing you accuse christians of doing, but no one cares about that because he&#8217;s on your &#8220;side.&#8221;  According to christian theology, God planned everything even before the creation of the world.  So technically, the guy on the cross came before the laminin protein.  Just thought I&#8217;d let you know</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Shot in the Dark by Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, faith is deciding to believe something to be true regardless of what any evidence related to the question might tell us. To believe something through reason means to believe in some conclusion arrived at due to evidence. There is no justification to simply assert that someone who decides that god (as he understands the term) doesn&#039;t exist is being dogmatic. He may well have asked many questions related to the issue and come up with nothing, and so he believes there is no god.

It is easy to assert that there might be a god, just as it is easy to assert that there are pink elephants on the dark side of the moon, that Saturn&#039;s moon Titan is populated by Care Bears, that the Earth has an underground population of gremlins living their lives unknown to us, and so on and so on, ad infinitum. You can assert anything to be true, and nobody can prove you wrong, but you do not deserve to be taken seriously if you cannot provide any evidence to justify such belief. Such claims like these, that cannot be proven nor disproven, are neither true nor false; they are arbitrary and as such cannot qualify as knowledge.

George H. Smith deals with issues of what can and cannot constitute knowledge in great detail in his book &quot;Atheism: The Case Against God.&quot; I am planning on writing a short review of the book for my first post here, when I get the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, faith is deciding to believe something to be true regardless of what any evidence related to the question might tell us. To believe something through reason means to believe in some conclusion arrived at due to evidence. There is no justification to simply assert that someone who decides that god (as he understands the term) doesn&#8217;t exist is being dogmatic. He may well have asked many questions related to the issue and come up with nothing, and so he believes there is no god.</p>
<p>It is easy to assert that there might be a god, just as it is easy to assert that there are pink elephants on the dark side of the moon, that Saturn&#8217;s moon Titan is populated by Care Bears, that the Earth has an underground population of gremlins living their lives unknown to us, and so on and so on, ad infinitum. You can assert anything to be true, and nobody can prove you wrong, but you do not deserve to be taken seriously if you cannot provide any evidence to justify such belief. Such claims like these, that cannot be proven nor disproven, are neither true nor false; they are arbitrary and as such cannot qualify as knowledge.</p>
<p>George H. Smith deals with issues of what can and cannot constitute knowledge in great detail in his book &#8220;Atheism: The Case Against God.&#8221; I am planning on writing a short review of the book for my first post here, when I get the time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Shot in the Dark by Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very well thought out post Ryan, great job! I&#039;d have to say that I agree with a lot of what you said. I think it&#039;s important to clarify my own personal stance on atheism. 

I am atheist against most gods (Zeus, Christian God, Muslim God, Native American Gods, etc...) because they have a definition. You can look at the bible (or whatever appropriate religious text) and read claims about these gods and disprove those claims. The earth is 6,000 - 10,000 years old is a good example. The bible says god did this and it is obviously and one hundred percent incorrect. You take all these statements about the gods, put them together and determine a probability based on the collective knowledge of science. These gods are are false and I am absolutely atheist against them.

Now, lets say thats not what you mean and I actually think you do mean this. But lets say you define god as some omnipotent being that exists in the universe and we haven&#039;t seen him or her or it because it&#039;s powers are so vast that we cannot comprehend it. Well in that case I would be less certain because you are defining a very abstract god and thats where Dawkin&#039;s comparisons to the flying spaghetti monster come into play. You can&#039;t disprove a lot of things but you can say that they are unlikely. I still find an abstract god unlikely though because science understands so much about the inner-workings of our universe that god is no longer necessary in explaining natural occurring phenomena. But like you said it&#039;s impossible to disprove but then again we could all be living in the matrix right now and you would have no way if disproving that either. However, I&#039;m sure you find that scenario very improbable and thats because, whether you know it or not, you have assigned some chance to that being a truth. 
 
And another thing about probability... when I say something is improbable or not, it&#039;s based on current human understanding and knowledge. Obviously the answer is either a yes or a no but when you take the entirety of human understanding, mix in a little common sense and a dash of personal bias you come up with probability of the subject in question. And yeah I know I had to say &quot;bias&quot; because even if you take everything that science knows about reality, you still have to come up with a number based on some personal opinion about what the data points to, especially in such an abstract case like this.

That was supposed to be just one sentence long but I got carried away. Anyways, like I said earlier, I agree with most of what you said and look forward to more thought provoking posts from you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very well thought out post Ryan, great job! I&#8217;d have to say that I agree with a lot of what you said. I think it&#8217;s important to clarify my own personal stance on atheism. </p>
<p>I am atheist against most gods (Zeus, Christian God, Muslim God, Native American Gods, etc&#8230;) because they have a definition. You can look at the bible (or whatever appropriate religious text) and read claims about these gods and disprove those claims. The earth is 6,000 &#8211; 10,000 years old is a good example. The bible says god did this and it is obviously and one hundred percent incorrect. You take all these statements about the gods, put them together and determine a probability based on the collective knowledge of science. These gods are are false and I am absolutely atheist against them.</p>
<p>Now, lets say thats not what you mean and I actually think you do mean this. But lets say you define god as some omnipotent being that exists in the universe and we haven&#8217;t seen him or her or it because it&#8217;s powers are so vast that we cannot comprehend it. Well in that case I would be less certain because you are defining a very abstract god and thats where Dawkin&#8217;s comparisons to the flying spaghetti monster come into play. You can&#8217;t disprove a lot of things but you can say that they are unlikely. I still find an abstract god unlikely though because science understands so much about the inner-workings of our universe that god is no longer necessary in explaining natural occurring phenomena. But like you said it&#8217;s impossible to disprove but then again we could all be living in the matrix right now and you would have no way if disproving that either. However, I&#8217;m sure you find that scenario very improbable and thats because, whether you know it or not, you have assigned some chance to that being a truth. </p>
<p>And another thing about probability&#8230; when I say something is improbable or not, it&#8217;s based on current human understanding and knowledge. Obviously the answer is either a yes or a no but when you take the entirety of human understanding, mix in a little common sense and a dash of personal bias you come up with probability of the subject in question. And yeah I know I had to say &#8220;bias&#8221; because even if you take everything that science knows about reality, you still have to come up with a number based on some personal opinion about what the data points to, especially in such an abstract case like this.</p>
<p>That was supposed to be just one sentence long but I got carried away. Anyways, like I said earlier, I agree with most of what you said and look forward to more thought provoking posts from you in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Reasonable Transformation by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man good story! I was kinda like that I just called myself agnostic for the longest time but for me it was cuz of my family and friends and how religious some of them were. I didn&#039;t want to become christian cuz I&#039;ve seen to many extremist who just sound psycho to me. I researched just about every religion I could and ended up going with Science. The only true religion that doesn&#039;t require a complete amount of blind faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man good story! I was kinda like that I just called myself agnostic for the longest time but for me it was cuz of my family and friends and how religious some of them were. I didn&#8217;t want to become christian cuz I&#8217;ve seen to many extremist who just sound psycho to me. I researched just about every religion I could and ended up going with Science. The only true religion that doesn&#8217;t require a complete amount of blind faith.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Reasonable Transformation by Sabrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dig this. Snaps for Peterson!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dig this. Snaps for Peterson!</p>
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		<title>Comment on One Nation Under Absurdity by ErvinTW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ErvinTW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! Nice post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! Nice post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The God Delusion by Brian Westley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Westley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need this picture:
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		<title>Comment on Let&#8217;s Philosophize by Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps normal Christians retain some allegiance to rationality in their daily lives, but they do sacrifice that when it comes to their faith.  The very essence of faith is belief without critical thought.  There is a lesser version of reason, I suppose, such as &quot;Gee I wonder why the universe is so massive and infinite.  Oh, I know, it must be because God wanted to give us something pretty to look at!  Problem solved!&quot;  (Similar logic here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU )

It is sound logic and sound reason, however it is blind to any outside or contradicting logic.  That&#039;s why the Christian science museum or whatever has displays of men riding dinosaurs.  I mean, the Earth is only 6,000 years old, right?  So, if we have dinosaurs and humans, well obviously god&#039;s creations would own them as pets.  I wouldn&#039;t call that rationality, I believe it&#039;s called in the symbolic logic circles &quot;stroking ones self&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps normal Christians retain some allegiance to rationality in their daily lives, but they do sacrifice that when it comes to their faith.  The very essence of faith is belief without critical thought.  There is a lesser version of reason, I suppose, such as &#8220;Gee I wonder why the universe is so massive and infinite.  Oh, I know, it must be because God wanted to give us something pretty to look at!  Problem solved!&#8221;  (Similar logic here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU</a> )</p>
<p>It is sound logic and sound reason, however it is blind to any outside or contradicting logic.  That&#8217;s why the Christian science museum or whatever has displays of men riding dinosaurs.  I mean, the Earth is only 6,000 years old, right?  So, if we have dinosaurs and humans, well obviously god&#8217;s creations would own them as pets.  I wouldn&#8217;t call that rationality, I believe it&#8217;s called in the symbolic logic circles &#8220;stroking ones self&#8221;.</p>
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